Posted by: rationalpsychic | Thursday, July 12, 2007

Response to a Post on Crooks and Liars re: Michael Moore’s Tirade Against Wolf Blitzer on CNN

I read this post on Crooks and Liars and had to throw my itty bitty bit into a sea of over 300 responses. Why? Because it just galls me that both sides get distracted and want to lionize or demonize Moore and then do very little to take a look at what we have and what we need in terms of health care.

Currently, I’m ready to throw my lot in with those who want to get nationalized medical coverage for us. Beyond that–I haven’t a clue what it should look like. Right now the important thing seems to me to be that we need to tell Congress that we want a drastic change that removes the profit motive from our medical care. “Entrepreneurial freedom” and “free market” are of little help to me as a patient.

I saw “Sicko” and I saw video of the Blitzer attempt to get info out of Moore. I thought the movie was great. I think he makes a lot of great points and has got the right prinicple in mind: get decent coverage for everyone in the US.

I do wish he would have set aside his anger over being jabbed by Blitzer after about 3-4 minutes. He had reason and he avoided calling Blitzer something that had to be bleeped. But, I think he wasted some opportunities to explain his views, his movie and what solutions are most likely to be workable within our society.

Whatever people want to argue about the state of our healthcare and how awful the service and breadth of procedures available to citizens in other country there is one shameful fact that is not addressed. If you were to go to a site Child Health USA 2005, you would find how poor our rate of infant mortality is in relation to the rest of the developed world. We are 28th of 30 nations listed.

This tells me that whatever people want to do about abortion rates in the US–by legislating it away (wishful thinking)–we are willing to sit by as a society and allow babies to die at a rate almost three times that of Sweden. I grew up believing the US was a more privileged place to live in than Sweden. And it still can be. But we have to make an effort to change this and let our representatives in Congress know that we believe the health of newborns is more important than whether or not Paris H. found God in her abbreviated jail time.

Oh, yes. And what was the source of those infant mortality statistics? Source: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for Health Statistics. Health, United States, 2005. Hyattsville, MD: 2005



  1. Be wary of Crooks & Liars. Crooks & Liars is what’s known as a left gatekeeper blog; their job is to pretend to be leftist (earning their “credibility” with plenty of Bush-bashing) and then use that “credibility” to manage discourse, diverting discussion away from areas most harmful to the regime. They will take things right up to the edge but they know how much they can say and what they can’t say. On the most important issues they are obfuscators and distractors, discourse channelers, not genuine leftists. Just like Daily Kos, Huffington Post, MyDD, Democratic Underground, Moxie Grrrl, Educational Whisper, The American Prospect, Mother Jones, Salon, The Nation, Sadly No!, My Left Wing, etc. These kind of sites, though appearing to foam at the mouth with vitriol against the right wingers, are actually doing the regime a favor by limiting discussion on matters to keep it within parameters safe for the regime. If you don’t believe me, try posting something on for example Crooks & Liars that says: People in the reality-based community should have no problem whatsoever in realizing that the uppermost portion of a skyscraper is not going to be able to “fall” into and THROUGH the remaining vast majority of solid building as quickly, meaning as effortlessly as falling through air without something else (i.e. explosives) reducing said majority of building to such a state of offering no more resistance than air. Can we all agree on that? Sounds pretty straightforward; solid things offer vastly more resistance than air. Anyone who graduated elementary school SHOULD be able to grasp this, and SHOULD be able to therefore grasp that the Twin Towers and WTC # 7 building had to have been controlled demolitions. It is literally COMMON SENSE.

    See what happens. I’ll tell you what happens: Anyone posting on Crooks & Liars who says anything that in any way questions the impossible official myth of 9/11 gets banned from commenting.

    So just because a blog APPEARS to be leftist, don’t assume they are genuine. Finding out where they stand on 9/11 truth and election fraud will let you know if they’re for real or just part of the cover-up.

  2. Lev speaks truth. I recently got banned from commenting there for two basic reasons: I don’t buy the business on “global warming” because I am not sure that the science on same is accurate. Plus I refer to Al Gore as “algore”. For it being a “liberal” site, I have thought for some time that C&L was a closet conservative site because of all of the video clips they post with Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and especially Bill O’Reilly. Sure, they have Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow, but not to the same degree as the right-wing talking heads I have named.

    Lev is correct: Be EXTREMELY wary of Crooks & Liars. If you want good solid left-wing reporting, go to the sites that Lev mentions — Daily Kos, Huffington Post, MyDD, Democratic Underground, Moxie Grrrl, Educational Whisper, The American Prospect, Mother Jones, Salon, The Nation, Sadly No!, and My Left Wing. I would add BuzzFlash to his list. My point is that there are good reliable left-wing sites that one can access, and that is where he should go for TRUE left-wing analysis of the news.

    • I am consistently stunned by the number of intelligent people who somehow believe that global warming is not real. Whether due to the fact that a few scientists (a Gallup poll of publishing climate scientists showed that 97% of them believed that humans are the major cause of global warming. still have doubts or because the right-wing media has latched on to the fact that a lot people can’t see it right in front of them or own petroleum stocks.

      Even geologists from the American Association of Petroleum Geologists (AAPG) at least acknowledge that human activity is one cause of the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere.

      And their record in taking an unbiased view of the subject isn’t very comforting: “In 2006 the AAPG was criticized for selecting Michael Crichton for their Journalism Award “for his recent science-based thriller State of Fear”, in which Crichton espoused his skeptical view of global warming, and for Jurassic Park.[2] Daniel P. Schrag, a geochemist who directs the Harvard University Center for the Environment, called the award “a total embarrassment” that he said “reflects the politics of the oil industry and a lack of professionalism” on the association’s part.[3]”

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