Clinton campaign: Racial politics Sunday, January 27, 2008
Posted by rationalpsychic in conversation.Tags: Barack Obama, Bill Clinton's Jesse Jackson comment, Billary, Bush, campaign, CNN.com, Hillary Clinton, Meet the Press, Obama, racial targeting, racism, South Carolina primary
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(Some of) the ugliness of the Clinton campaign. Where does Bill get off spitting on the support he’s been given by the African-American community and start lining up Obama as part of a tradition of “black” contenders for the Democratic presidential nomination and can’t find anything of greater substance one which to criticize Obama? The following is a quote from a CNN.com commentary by Roland S. Martin:
As reported on Jake Tapper’s ABCNews.com blog, at a stop in Columbia, South Carolina, the former president was asked to respond to Obama’s comment that it “took two people to beat him.”
Instead of answering the question, he said, “Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in ‘84 and ‘88. Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here.”
Tapper said no one asked about Jackson. His name never came up. Yet Clinton had no problem invoking it.
Here is a link to the original video snippet being referred to here. The only thing about this that is even remotely satisfying is to read Bill’s body language and to realize how pissed he is at the question of why it takes both he and Hillary to beat Obama. Watch for the shake of his head before he scoops his hand into the racial mud and flings it.
This is shaming to watch. This is racism in action and if you heard it coming from Bush’s mouth you would be incensed or, so dispirited by the repetition of it, you’d say, “Well, there he goes again.”
Meet the Press did have a intelligent discussion of this matter and the phenomenon of Bill Clinton going into feeding frenzy. The discussion of Obama and the Clinton’s performance in South Carolina starts 27:25 into the show.
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While I’m on the subject of campaigns, politics and such. I have a hard time understanding a few of the assumptions that people make regarding a candidate’s suitability to meet hypothetical situations. The assumptions these judgments are based on are often faulty or, conveniently, nonexistent.
Assumption: Barack Obama cannot be competent in the role of US President because he doesn’t have any foreign policy experience. Question: What foreign policy experience does Hillary Clinton have? What foreign policy did Bill Clinton have at the beginning of his first term?
Assumption: Mitt Romney has claimed his business experience is a requirement for functioning as President in a competent manner. Therefore, goes his calculus, a candidate like McCain, who lacks business experience, can’t be given credence. Question: How has George W. Bush’s business experience translated into an economic climate which has benefited America as a whole?
One good thing that’s come out of the past two weeks of political campaigning: I know who I’m going to caucus for on February 5 now.
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[...] vbonnaire wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerpt(Some of) the ugliness of the Clinton campaign. Where does Bill get off spitting on the support he’s been given by the African-American community and start lining up Obama as part of a tradition of “black” contenders for the Democratic presidential nomination and can’t find anything of greater substance one which to criticize Obama? The following is a quote from a CNN.com commentary by Roland S. Martin: As reported on Jake Tapper’s ABCNews.com blog, at a stop in Columbia, South Carolina, the former president was asked to respond to Obama’s comment that it “took two people to beat him.” Instead of answering the question, he said, “Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in ‘84 and ‘88. Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here.” Tapper said no one asked about Jackson. His name never came up. Yet Clinton had no problem invoking it. [...]
I used to like Bill Clinton a lot and I still do but I don’t think that he helped his legacy any with his trash talking of Obama. “I did not have sexual relations with that woman- Miss Lewinsky” and “What a fairy tale… Give me a break!” will be his two most famous quotes.
Still, it will be a much better legacy than GW Bush will have. Wait until world leaders like Putin write their memoires. If Dubya thinks that history will vindicate him, he has another think coming.
Go Obama! Yes we can!
I don’t like Obama. There’s something about him that strikes me as disingenuous, especially after wading through his flowery rhetoric.
Any jackass can give a “Great Speech.” Too bad life is influenced very little by speeches.
It’s unfortunate race is becoming an issue, but anyone who says they didn’t see it coming (Including Obama) is a damn liar. It’s no different than the criticism Hillary gets for being female (She’s a “Bitch,” she’s too “Soft, emotional” etc. All codewords for, “Woman”).
I know you dream of the day when we all skip off into the distance together, but it’s never happening. There are too many people, too many different perspectives, and too many agendas.
Obama is selling a fantasy, and he knows it, which is why he remains ambiguous about how exactly he’s going to “Restore Hope,” and “Unify/Heal” the Country.
He knows Utopia is impossible, and he knows the Wingnuts don’t want “Unity,” they want war.
And bargaining/compromising with them should be considered treason.
fairlane
Consider the following words uttered by Obama in October 2002
” know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather thE best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.
I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars.”
REFLECT UPON THE GRASP OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS , COMMON SENSE, LOGIC , JUDGEMENT AND CLEAR THINKING THAT WAS DEMONSTRATED BY OBAMA AND WAS CONSPICUOUS BY ABSENCE IN :HILLARY, EDWARDS, McCAIN, KERRY AND INDEED IN MANY OTHER AMERICANS IN THE RUSH TO A FIASCO.
Dear Apostate Psychic,
After reading through a couple of your stories I was able to see why you left such an arrogant comment on my own blog. It is painfully clear that you are a Liberalized sheep who drops his own feces everywhere he can just because he likes the sound and smell that it makes when it hits. You people are all the same. Spewing vitrol and blasphemies about Family Values, morality, and Republican Christians is your favorite pastime.
I pray you enjoy supporting your precious Clintons and Obamas of the world while you can. Because in the afterlife you will be spending all eternity with them in HELL with the rest of the sodomites, perverts, and Anti-Americans.
Liberalized sheep?
How about those conservativized sheep who continue trying to put lipstick on a pig by supporting GW Bush’s Iraq fiasco?
I have mixed feelings about the elections. I can just hope that whoever wins is the best for the country and for the world. I nominate Jon Stewart for president.
Hello, I heard on George Noory of Coast to Coast radio show he had on Twin Psychics. They predicted that Hillary Clinton will win the election in November. What good would Mitt Romney do with the economy if most of tax money going to Middle East. Thanks, Elly